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mary-lou's avatar

there are languages where one would never say "I think....", because the term used for the verb 'to think' has a different meaning. instead, consider saying: "according to me, ....", through which the exchange of information becomes more objective. it becaomes irrelevant wether you're discussing a feeling, a belief, an opinion, or a fact. additionally, the exchange of information is more easily focused on the content of what it is you'd like to say, according to you.

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Elsa's avatar

I believe it matters if I THINK something - if it comes from information and analysis - or if it comes from FEELING - if I'm basing my position on, say, an uncomfortable or comfortable feeling about something. And I BELIEVE what I have just said because I have THOUGHT about it. So I find "according to me" inadequate as it puts very different things together, as if they were the same. I care to be as accurate as possible. "According to me" could be used as a starting point, as in : According to me this is the case, because I have THOUGHT and RESEARCHED, and so have the following EVIDENCE ...

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Biacco's avatar

This is a very interesting thread of thoughts as most people never think about the origins of their thoughts, believes and convictions. Are the primary primitive origins of all our thoughts and deeds, motives, evaluations and convictions not emotions? I.e. hate, love, greed, etc. And are "feelings" not a mix of emotions and thoughts that come always later up un our mind?

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Elsa's avatar

Interesting thinking. Does it come from feeling? If so, which? Curiosity? I'm not going for absolute clarity, by the way, just some clarity. Then, about the origin of thoughts: I may THINK something (flying is safe) coming from information I have, and yet feel something quite different (no no no I'll never go near an airplane, it will crash!!!).

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mary-lou's avatar

curiosity. empathy.

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Albion's avatar

Feelings are subjective if they refer to an emotion: fear, anger, love, joy etc. So, yes it is factual for the individual. Not a fact as in - reality, evidence, proof as accepted by humanity as a whole. Anger is a "fact" of the human personality so accepted as a legitimate "feeling" / emotion. But does it continue & remain a fact if the person is under hypnosis? There are varieties of mesmerism - the one where you voluntarily allow yourself to be hypnotized either for medical or entertainment. You will love, hate, find a raw onion deliciously sweet as a peach without any normal physical reaction to the onion. Is that a fact? Currently at least half of the planet is under hypnosis. So how they feel the fact(s) concerning them at this time is subjective & not factual despite their firm belief. There is a spectacularly genius conversation between Reiner Fuellmich & Prof. Mattias Desmet (English) on YouTube (2021). Prof. Desmet elucidates the how & why of the PlanDemic's acceptance worldwide. He speaks so clearly describing the methods used by the Cabal-DS there is not mistake in understanding whythe world is where it finds itself. It's highly recommended.

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Elsa's avatar

Feelings are objective. They are facts. I or you or anyone may feel anger hate joy, etc. It's not only objective for me. That emotion exists. Even if I'm hypnotized, if I'm induced to feel, say, fear, I am feeling fear. The CAUSE of the emotion then is hypnotic suggestion, rather than from something within me - but the emotion is still fear (or whatever).

Reiner did a very interesting interview shortly before his arrest with someone named (I'm not sure at the moment) Christian, on how we may be induced to act from suggestion..

Re Desmet, I found a number of gaps in his thinking, but considerable interesting stuff.

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Albion's avatar

I agree regarding Prof. Desmet's POV. His elucidation makes the most sense - no one's analysis or POV either Dr. Fuellmich's or anyone whom I admire & agree with on the whole can possibly answer the questions we're all asking. It's the whole of the thing that resonates or not. I am constantly shifting my thoughts on this or that, but find that the whole of my intuition's trajectory has not only NOT shifted - but actually focused in on the objective - Triumph for Good. Thank you for the opportunity to have these discussions!

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Jean-Sebastien Savard's avatar

About language wars, the novlangue in france is doing well in dumbing its society. Check this one out GOAT = greatest of all time… so kids winning game says im the goat…can it get more sacrificial than the that? Another exemple is SPT syndrome post traumatic. U read or hear that it takes away the caring & feeling about understanding someone that was SHOCKED post wars. Question 🙋‍♂️ when is mathew ereth debunking? I cant retrain my curiosity.

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